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Super Off Road restoration
« on: May 11, 2009, 05:19:25 pm »
Well I picked up a new project today. A Super Off Road cabinate for 30$ on ebay. It definatley needs a lot of TLC but for $30 I couldn't pass it up.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 05:40:43 pm »
The game is mostly complete except the chasis and moniter board is missing, also missing one steering wheel. The game supposidly came up scrambled when it was last turned on? So I'm not sure about the condition of the PCB. Anyway this one is going to take a while. Does anyone know what kind of chasis this game came with? Also, does anyone know where a new CPO and Side art can be found?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 06:32:25 pm »
This should be interesting.  I'm trying to find an Off Road that I'll be restoring.  Good luck with the artwork, I've been looking everywhere and can't find anything.
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 08:32:36 am »
Even the yoke is rememoved....that's a shame, else you could have bought a new chassis.

I had the chance to by one over here that looked very nice and was working for not much money but I simply don't have the space for something like that. Never played it, but played similar game on Atari ST and it's great fun IMHO. I'm sure the arcade controls only add to the fun.

I'm on a very slow GPRS connection now, but here's the manual, maybe that will say anything about the monitor they used.
http://www.arcadedocs.com/vidmanuals/S/SuperOffRoad.pdf

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 08:34:50 am »
Side art may be difficult to find.  There was some recent talk on KLOV about someone getting it scanned, but I don't know where they left off.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 08:59:19 am »
Even the yoke is rememoved....that's a shame, else you could have bought a new chassis.


At least they left all that copper wire meticulously wound around plastic with 4 wires coming off of it into a convienient connector on the neck of the monitor in pictures 3 and 4...


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 09:18:59 am »
Yoke is there.  Appears to be a K7000 mount.  Not sure about the condition of the neck though, looks broken.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 12:20:01 pm »
Well given the difficulty of finding parts for it, I wonder if I'd just be better off pulling it apart and selling the pieces on ebay?
I'll have to look when I get home but I think the neck is fine? I don't remember seeing anything that looked broken on it?
Anyone know where to start looking for the chasis for this thing? Ebay? 

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 02:01:30 pm »
25" K7000 chassis are pretty easy to find.  Or you can get a replacement chassis.

Do you have any other monitors to hook up to it?  Doesn't have to be 25", just have to be able to hook it up to test the boards.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 02:27:29 pm »
Wow, I was trying to play this in mame32 the other day and could not for the life of me remember the name. It wasn't under Off Road. I guess I should've tried under I for Ivan.... or is it under S for Super?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 03:55:38 pm »
Well the neck seems to be in ok shape. I don't see anything obvious wrong with it??
I really don't have any other non Jamma cabs to hook it up to to check the condition of the CPU.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 04:01:10 pm »
I'm pretty sure the side art will all come off in one big piece, the black laminate on the entire game is coming off really easily. I wonder if someone had a way to scan it, then do some photoshop work on it, if they could get it near perfect? It's an option I suppose if I can't find it anywhere? Has anyone attempted to do anything like that?
Also where do you find that black laminate that is on the sides and front?
Here is a pic of the black laminate coming off along with the side art...

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 05:11:46 pm »
Well the neck seems to be in ok shape. I don't see anything obvious wrong with it??
I really don't have any other non Jamma cabs to hook it up to to check the condition of the CPU.


Other than some minor bending to the pins, and being dirty, it looks okay.  It was just that one picture that made it look broken.

Doesn't have to be a JAMMA cab, just has to be a working monitor.  Pretty much any one (that's not medium res) will do.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 05:17:35 pm »
Curious why wouldn't a med resolution monitor work?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2009, 05:37:37 pm »
Curious why wouldn't a med resolution monitor work?

Because it's not a medium res game.

Or is it?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2009, 08:17:13 am »
Ya know I'm not sure?! Anyone know the answer? On another note, I got the side art off last night, and got it cleaned up, it actually doesn't THAT bad. Worst case scenerio, I guess I could re-use it as is. The CPO on the other hand, I don't think there will be any saving it. Anyone know where to find a CPO for this game?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2009, 09:23:01 am »
AFAIK it's a standard res game.  Which means you can use nearly any standard res monitor to test the board.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2009, 09:48:19 am »
Even the yoke is rememoved....that's a shame, else you could have bought a new chassis.


At least they left all that copper wire meticulously wound around plastic with 4 wires coming off of it into a convienient connector on the neck of the monitor in pictures 3 and 4...


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I can get a K7000-25" chassis if you need....but would require shipping from Europe....

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2009, 09:54:30 am »
Standard res according to KLOV...
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2009, 10:08:36 am »
Shipping from Europe huh? What's that run? Since I'm in no huge hurry with this thing as it needs a LOT of work, maybe I'll just keep an eye open on Ebay for a while? What would a fair price be for a
K7000-25" chassis?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2009, 06:24:02 pm »
I got the side art off in two nice pieces!  :applaud:
I'm hoping a photoshop wizard can scan it, repair it!?
I managed to clean up most of the grime and grit off the left side, if all else fails I can always put this back on?!? I'd rather not though......

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2009, 06:27:48 pm »
I'm hoping I can get the CPO off in 4 pieces, the top, and the three colors on the bottom? I'm going to keep my fingers crossed that they come off just as easy? This art is definatley a bit more weathered. I HOPE it can be scanned and repaired as well? It will be a bit more difficult I think due to the wear?!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2009, 07:14:56 pm »
I've got you covered!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2009, 11:35:25 am »
I'm working on a Super Off Road theme for Hyperspin.
Tarman, if you're offering to clean up the artwork can I get a copy? Otherwise, I can maybe work on it this weekend.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2009, 10:47:33 pm »
This is an improvement but I think you're going to need to borrow a scanner and scan the left cabinet side piece by piece.

The other option is vector tracing but I still recoment a much higher res picture to start with.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2009, 10:46:39 am »
That does look better. I'm hoping that Tarman will be able to work his magic on the side art and CPO. I got the CPO off in one nice oiece too, but there will be no saving the part off the CPO that surounds the steering wheel. The Contol panel itself was is terrible shape, someone had used a bunch of screws and some kind of glue to try to hold it together. It made things very uneven and didn't the whole things didn't want to stay together. I stripped everything and filled all the holes with bondo and got the whole thing looking pretty good.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2009, 10:54:52 am »
Did they change how to post a pic?!?!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2009, 09:04:41 am »
Welp, I'll post pics when they it is back up any running.......

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 11:47:11 am »
Theres' s a problem with attachments at the moment.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2009, 12:20:07 pm »
Me and one of my room mates were joking about how awesome it would be to have one of these in the house. Every year my family would go to the poconos when I was little and this was the only video game the crappy lodge had. Really nice find. good luck with it

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2009, 07:30:36 pm »
HA! Great story! Funny how a stupid game brings you right back to some of the most fun times of being a kid!  :) I think thats the thing I enjoy the most about the hobby!
Hey anyone know when they are going to get the picture posting function fixed on this board? I've made a little progress and would like to post a few pics with an update!


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2009, 03:22:54 am »
Has there been any progress on the Off Road art?  I just picked one up today and it's in need of some love. 
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2009, 01:19:55 pm »
I sent it off to Tarman a week or so back to try and restore it. He is going to scan it using a high resolution scaner and see if he can clean it up. The CPO was pretty trashed, but he thinks he'll be able to fix it all. So with any luck we'll all have some nice repo artwork. Keep checking back here I'll be posting the progress. I noticed that the picture posting is fixed, I'll try and get some pics of the slow progress I've been making......

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2009, 04:28:10 pm »
I sent it off to Tarman a week or so back to try and restore it. He is going to scan it using a high resolution scaner and see if he can clean it up. The CPO was pretty trashed, but he thinks he'll be able to fix it all. So with any luck we'll all have some nice repo artwork. Keep checking back here I'll be posting the progress. I noticed that the picture posting is fixed, I'll try and get some pics of the slow progress I've been making......


That is good to hear.  If your control panel is too messed up I can send mine off cause it's in good shape, just a little dirty.
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2009, 02:13:50 pm »
Here is the CP, it was glue and screwed together and was a major pain to get apart! I managed to get the CPO off all in one nice piece.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2009, 02:22:05 pm »
Here is a close up of the front of the 3 CPs.
Also the back of the wheel that contains the optic board and encoder.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2009, 02:27:20 pm »
One of the steering wheel  is missing a bearing. This can be seen in these pictures. Does anyone know a replacment bearing that would be compatible?











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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2009, 02:29:58 pm »
Here is one of the Encoder cups, the several teeth are clearly missing. Does anyway know where a replacment can be found?!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2009, 02:32:44 pm »
Here is the CP once it was opened up. WHAT A MESS!!!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2009, 02:34:55 pm »
Another shot. I got the can of bondo out and went to work! This thing was trashed!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2009, 02:41:37 pm »
The laminate was a major pain to remove from the inside of the CP.

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« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2009, 03:58:26 pm »
Here is filling the CP. With all the old glue and screws removed and all the holes filled and sanded, it actually fit together really nice!

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« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2009, 04:01:58 pm »
Here is something I found curious. Once it was all back together, I was suprised to see a GAP between the CP and the main part of the cab. Stealthie said there is a piece of metal trim? Can anyone post a pic and give me the over all diemtions? The gap can clearly be seen here.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2009, 04:09:58 pm »
Here is the gas pedal control panel, as you can see it was VERY TIRED! I was suprised once I opened it up that things were in decent shape. Only one of the poteniometer was broken. The wiring leads were broken off, and some one had wired the gas pedal braket to the pedal. The little "pin" was broken off. Other than that, the whole thing just needed a lot of TLC.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2009, 11:30:52 am »
You have a lot of work to do on this one, but it looks like a fun project.  Good luck.

Just as an FYI, you can embed your pictures directly into the thread.  I think the posts look and read better that way

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You can either setup a free photobucket (that's the one I use) account and upload the photos there first, then post the link directly into your thread.  Or, if you look at the top of the project annoucements section of this forum, there is a thread for posting pictures.  You can upload them there and then link to them in this thread.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2009, 03:56:57 pm »
Hmmm, I will have to mess with that, I agree it def looks better. I signed up for photobucket.  Got a few pic uploaded to my account, how do grab the pics from photobucket to this thread?
Welp, until I get that figured out, I'll do it the the only way I know. A little pressed for time today so I can't mess with it.
Got the pedal shroudings off, put them in the vise, took the wire wheel to them and cleaned them up. It did a really nice job. Here is a nice Before and after shot. Also took off the plate that connects the Foot Control panel to the cabinate. Got ithat cleaned up.

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« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2009, 04:01:23 pm »
A shot of my paint booth!  :)
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2009, 04:12:01 pm »
I ended up finding a corrugated rubber mat on ebay, it was around 40$ but it was about as close to the original as I could find. Unfortunatley The smallest one I could find that I could cut the correct size out of was 3x4". I figured I would use the remaining leftover piece as a mat to stand on in fron of my work bench. I cut it using the old one as a pattern, it turned out REALLY nice! Better than I thought it would. It was the same thickness and really heavy duty. The only difference is the ribs are a little closer together than the original, but it still looked really nice. And I love my new mat in front of my workbench!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2009, 04:16:52 pm »
After the paint dryed, I bought some grip tape to put on the pedals, and the shrouding. Probably not an original, put I like the way it looks and will probably hold up better than just the pain alone.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2009, 04:21:34 pm »
A couple shots of the pedals and shroudings after the tape was applied.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2009, 04:29:01 pm »
Another tough thing to find was the aluminum trim piece that surrounded the panel. I looked at Home Depot, Lows, True Value none had anything even close. A guy a HD recommended I check the little local mom and pop hardware store. Checked it out, the didn't have it but could order it. So I placed an order. It was 3/4" with a 3/16th lip on it. It came in a couple days later. It was really close to the original, only difference was it had pre-drilled holes in it for screws. The original had no holes and was stapled. I took my time putting it on, it bent nicely around the corners, screwing it in as I went. Here is the finished product.  The trim piece really made the thing look nice! Almost done with it....

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2009, 04:39:34 pm »
Damn it's coming along real nice.  I like the grip tape idea is pretty cool.  I'll get that pic of the bracket for you today.
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #52 on: June 04, 2009, 08:31:03 am »
how do grab the pics from photobucket to this thread?

Use the IMG code listed under the image in Photobucket.  Copy it from there and paste it directly into your thread.
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2009, 02:50:24 am »
Things have been going slow with this one. I'm trying to piece together all the parts I need. Made a pretty good score today though, an entire steering wheel, the shrouding, and all the guts on ebay for 10$!
So I get 3 of the parts I need.
1 wheel, one of the bearings for the wheel, and hopfully a intact encoder cup!! Plus I'll have an extra optic board in case one of mine ever goes bad.
OH and ANOTHER good score, a NON-working PCB board for $1 on ebay! I figure I should be able to piece together ONE good board from the 2. If not, heck I'm only out a buck!!
Stealthie is hopefully going to hook me up with one of his extra poteniometers, and the broken piece on the part that connects it to the foot pedal.
Tarman is still working on getting the Side art and CPO scanned in, and cleaned up digitally.
Monday and Tues I'm going to try and get the last of the pedals cleaned up, and painted so I can get that back together once I get a new potentionmeter.
Also I going to start the "body work" on the cabinate.  Then I can go to Twistedquarter and get new black Vinyl, new T molding, buttons, and some of the other detail stuff.
I think my biggest hang up is going to find a reasonable monitor. I've been keeping my eyes peeled, but nothing yet in my price range. Heck from everything I've seen it is going to be cheaper to buy another junker game somewhere, rob the monitor, tube and all out of it, and sell off the parts/ jamma ect, to recoup part of my money?
Not sure what I'm going to do just yet......
Anyone have a cheap 25" K7000 monitor they  want to part with!?!?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2009, 07:41:08 am »
You already have the tube and the frame.  All you need is the chassis.  Ask on KLOV if anyone has a 25" K7000 chassis for sale.  Or, worst case, you get an 8-liners chassis.

Of course, you don't know if your tube is good, you should probably test that beforehand.  Anyone near this guy have a K7000 that can pay a visit for "testing purposes?"

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2009, 09:49:51 am »
I just got a Super Off Road PCB off of a little-known online auction site and will be following this resto closely.  :cheers:

Great attention to detail. :notworthy:

I wish i could offer some help but I'll be out of the states for a few more months and I hope you have the good fortune to finish before then.  :blah:

I may not do a resto... well, i don't have anything to restore really.  :laugh2:  I just want the gameplay with 3 steering wheels and all the pedals to feel right.  ;D  Definitely jealous of the cabinet find, good jorb!  I used to love eating pizza and playing this game.  I can't wait to see *both* projects done  :burgerking:
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #56 on: June 19, 2009, 07:23:44 am »
Congrats! This is a fun game, I remember buying it on Nintendo when it came out cause I liked the arcade version so much, it just wasn't quite the same!  :)
Well my used 10$ steering wheel assembly showed up on Wednesday!  ;D
I must admit I was a bit perplexed by it! From the pics of it on Ebay, I thought it was going to be an identical copy of my "Blue" assembly? From the second I took it out of the box I knew it wasn't! Take a close look, the "new" one is the one on the left.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #57 on: June 19, 2009, 07:34:12 am »
The first thing I noticed was the "Instert coin in right slot" lettering was in a different spot! Then instantly I noticed that the metal shrouding piece was the shape(trapizoid) of the center one on my game! So I was thinking "Well maybe on this game the "blue wheel" was the the center unit?" So I compair it to the center one(which is the yellow wheel btw) on my game and I was thinking "Yeah that is what they did" Well that didn't quite make sence because why would the lettering say "Insert coin in right slot"??? Hmmm, well the entire thing was in much better condition than my center wheel. So my next thought was to leave this one in tact and keep it as my center wheel, and canibalize my yellow wheel for the parts I need! After all, I'll be replacing the overlays. That is when I found the weirdest thing of ALL! It was BIGGER than my yellow shrouding!! Check out these next pics!!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2009, 07:39:22 am »
Quite a bit bigger!
As you can see the second pic is after I stole the wheel off of it. But really it doesn't match any shrouding on my game!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2009, 07:46:05 am »
So the only thing I can figure is that this one is from a 2 player version of the game? I looked up several pic of the 2 player version of this game it looks like a different CP ALL TOGETHER! So I'm not sure what gives with this thing? I'm sure all the parts are the same and it'll work, just has me really curious!! Maybe this is from the later "Trak Pak" version or something? Anyone know the answer?!?!

So anyway I got the 3 parts I needed, the wheel, the encoder cup, and the upper bearing!
Here is the break down.
My Blue wheel needed the encoder cup.
My Yellow wheel needed the actual steering wheel.
My Red wheel need the upper bearing!!!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #60 on: June 19, 2009, 07:48:59 am »
Here is my blue wheel, missing a few teeth on the encoder cup, and the one I was about ready to steal!  :)

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2009, 07:52:24 am »
And of course my red wheel with the new upper bearing firmly in place!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2009, 08:01:16 am »
WALA! An ENTIRE intact control panel for 10$!! How can you beat THAT!!  :dunno
 It's starting to come together! VERY SLOWLY!
I think I am going to keep the rest of that other wheel assembly. Just in case the gears get stripped on one, or if one of my optic boards are bad? Cheap spare parts!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2009, 11:50:04 am »
WOW!!   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Your resourcefulness is awesome!!! :notworthy:

I hope I can find the same for my Super Off Road creation, especially the expensive wheels! :dizzy:
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2009, 12:53:58 am »
THANKS! Desperate times call for desperate measures!  ;D
This morning I got the idea to take apart an entire wheel assembly to see if I could polish up the metal that was in really bad shape around the wheel. Once I got the entire thing apart, I got a bit scared that I might not get it back together!!?!!??!?  :-\

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2009, 12:59:32 am »
Rather than focus on the RE assembly, I focused on the task at hand, getting that metal polished up! The Mothers Power ball wouldn't touch the crap build up on the aluminu. I ended up taking the sand with 400 grit to the entire thing first! Then the mothers power ball, then by hand! maybe 2 hours total on this one??

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2009, 01:02:31 am »
Well I DID get it back together! And I PROOVED with out a shadow of a doubt.....
GIVEN ENOUGH TIME YOU REALLY CAN POLISH A TURD!!!!!!!!! LOL!  :laugh2:

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2009, 01:10:28 am »
Well my only problem is now, I think this one turned out TOO good!! Heck, its nicer than the wheel on my CAR!  :)
Does anyone know what it looked like from the factory? I'm sure it wasn't polished. Probably just a brushed metal look I'm guessing? If I could only go back to 1988 when I was 13...........
Any thoughts on weather or not this looks good, or I should give it a more rustic look?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #68 on: June 20, 2009, 01:22:02 am »
I think it looks great, but I don't remember what they looked like new.

Great job so far! I will be watching this thread really closely now - I am getting one of these tomorrow.  ;D It is working, but could definitely use a little cosmetic work.

What paint did you use on the pedals? Those turned out nice.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #69 on: June 20, 2009, 01:40:11 am »
Looks great!  I'd leave it.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #70 on: June 20, 2009, 06:55:41 am »
Absolutely Leave it!  :applaud:

I'm sure it may have been just a brushed metal look, but when I saw the pic it looked "right".  If i were making the original that is how I would've done it; nice and polished up.  ;D

Not trying to hijack, but did you just make a better wheel than HAPP's $265 http://www.happcontrols.com/driving/50283700.htm for like $10?  :cheers:

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I forgot to add that the guy I bought my dedicated Mortal Kombat from is selling his 2-player Super Off Road Track Pack online and it doesn't have the red, yellow, or blue trapezoids behind the wheels.  It is a newer-style cab, but I wonder if your blue trapezoid came from a 1-player version, although the "right slot" suggests otherwise.  It's hard to find pics of anything but the 3 player.  Your resto seems to be falling into place like a great streak of tetris.  Anything you are finding hard to find?


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I just found a guy at Armageddongames.net "War Lord" that has a Super Off Road and sent him a PM to see what his wheels look like  :cheers:
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #71 on: June 20, 2009, 11:01:29 am »
Well I guess the concensis is that I keep it polished! I thought it looked good too, but after spending a couple hours doing it, my opinion might have been  a little biased.
Yep 10$, I wasn't sure what I was going to do about getting all those parts I needed? I don't know if they are BETTER than the 265$ wheels, but definatley more original. Remeber  I have no CLUE as to weather they work or not? One of the sets of photo reisistors looks different than the other 3. I'm assuming someone replaced them at one point? So I am keeping my fingers crossed that they work?? They should, not too much can go wrong with them I wouldn't think?
Yeah the art work and CPO is immposible to find, thank goodness Tarman is doing a resto on mine, hopefully we can get it over to mammarquees.com when its done so anyone else wanting to restore on one of these won't have to  :banghead: like I did!
There are two parts I think I am never going to find. One I can fabricate, the other I'm still not sure what I'm going to do.  The one I'm going to make when the time is right is a piece of metal trim that goes between the CP and the main part of the cab. Mine is missing. Stealthie had hooked me up with some measurments and pics of the one on his. The Other is the bezel. When I put mine in, there is still a 1/2" gap between the bezel and the tube front. I am pretty sure the tube is mounted where it should be, which leads me to believe that I have the wrong bezel?? From what I can tell from pics I have seen, the bezels on other ones seem wider? Can anyone confirm that? Il'll snap a pic of mine showing the gap. I may have to remount the tube? Or try to find an original bezel?
OTher than those two items and a piece out of one pedal assembly, I'm still looking for a resonable 25" WG 7XXX to put in there. I Have seen a couple but I trying to do this on a budget, and $200 won't quite work for me. I'm hoping for around 1/2 that??? OR LESS!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #72 on: June 20, 2009, 11:09:43 am »
Oh and the pedals I painted with 3 coats of primer, then a few coats of rustoleum Gloss black laquer. I'm sure they won't hold up like electroplating them would, BUT, that is why I put that skate board tape on the tops. They should be very durible with that stuff on there?
Well I better get crackin on polishing those other 2 wheels........
More later.....

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #73 on: June 20, 2009, 11:36:37 am »
Here real quick a couple shots of the gap beween the bezel and the tube. Anyone know what gives with this? Tube mounted incorrectly, or wrong bezel? The tube looks like it is in the right place to me.......
Where on earth would I find a bezel that would work?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #74 on: June 20, 2009, 03:01:11 pm »
1 more down! Before and after! I ended up replacing the lock down piece too, the one that came on the yellow wheel was bent.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #75 on: June 20, 2009, 03:02:15 pm »
ONE LEFT!!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #76 on: June 20, 2009, 04:10:44 pm »
Those look nice. Are you going to try to redo the red, blue, and yellow panels? If so, what are you going to try? The pictures I have of mine (hopefully will be here soon) look like they are a bit faded and have a few blemishes.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #77 on: June 20, 2009, 04:48:51 pm »
Tarman is scratch building brand new ones!! :notworthy:
Hopefully they will be sent off to Mamemarquee.com or a similar site for all to have access to!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #78 on: June 20, 2009, 05:08:03 pm »
ZORK2 - would you mind measuring the monitor glass on yours? Mine is missing and I want to start calling around for quotes. I should be playing in a couple of hours!  ;D

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #79 on: June 20, 2009, 07:27:54 pm »
Ahhh rub it in why don't you!  :)
On mine it was plexi, which when I replace it, I'm going to use real glass, it'll look a lot better that way I think. Let me know how much they quote you.  I'll be curious to know. Does your game have plexi over the CPO?? I'm thinking of putting Lexan over this one as well, just like I did on my Simpsons game when I restored it...
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« Reply #80 on: June 20, 2009, 09:07:10 pm »
Mine doesn't even have artwork on the CPO yet. I will need to do quite a bit of work on it, but it should turn out pretty nice. I have some extra pedal and steering parts, so I am going to mix and match to try and make them really nice. What did you use to shine up the steering columns again? I think I may copy you on that, they just look really nice.

I will try to call for a quote on the glass on Monday, I was out in the garage playing.  ;D
It is nice to be able to play it so soon, but the cost of yours is pretty hard to beat.
Is the pedal panel just supposed to sit in front of it? I don't see any way to mount it.
I have the same gap between the monitor and bezel that you have.

Here is what I am starting with:

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #81 on: June 22, 2009, 09:16:28 pm »
Before

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« Reply #82 on: June 22, 2009, 09:17:51 pm »
AFTER!!!!  :applaud:

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« Reply #83 on: June 22, 2009, 09:23:09 pm »
Hey Paul your game looks better and may actually WORK, but I'd like to bet your pedal panel doesn't look THIS GOOD!  :)
Let me know if you need me to explain any of the dimentions to you....


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« Reply #84 on: June 23, 2009, 12:02:27 am »
Thanks for adding the pics. And no, my pedal panel doesn't look any where near that good. I am not even sure if I have the patience to make them look that good, but I will give it a shot.

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« Reply #85 on: July 10, 2009, 01:41:37 pm »
ARTWORK UPDATE!

Here are is the cleaned up sideart for our friend ZORK2.


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2009, 04:51:00 pm »
ALL BOW DOWN TO TARMAN!!!  :notworthy:

Quick update, been working slow on this project. Got the Pedal Panel looking awesome and it is completed except for the one Poteniometer. The Steering wheel Panel looks and the mechanic are all working 100%!! Just awaiting the CPO to be completed. Got the coin door off and the rust and old paint stripped, it is in primer now, I'm going to work more on it tomorrow. I'll try and add a couple new pics tomorrow.


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2009, 04:59:39 am »
Tarman - great work on the side art!

Matt, do you still need a pot for one of your pedals? I should have an extra working one in my pile of parts.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #88 on: August 28, 2009, 10:32:56 pm »
OK, sorry I have put this off so long!!
I am reviving this sucker!!  :)  I need to find one major thing! WHERE ON EARTH can I find a 25 WG K7107!?!?
What other games did this chasis come in? I've been cruising Ebay for this sucker for months, with NO LUCK!
Other than that, thing thing is ready to go. I still need a board but I was able to test my steering wheel ??? CP on a friends machine a week ago. WORKED LIKE A CHARM! In fact it was better than his! I'm hoping Tarman is still helping me out with the artwork, and I've found the black laminate and I'm ready to roll!!
My biggest hang up is that stupid 7107!!!  Will any chasis do? Or do I have to have a 7107?!?
 ??? Help me get this stupid project done already!!



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« Reply #89 on: August 29, 2009, 01:37:56 am »
Any standard res 25K71xx chassis should work. 

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2009, 06:26:29 pm »
Hey Zork Tarman got the CPO yesterday so the artwork should be ready pretty soon. 

If you're looking for another monitor I can sell mine.
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2009, 08:09:27 pm »
What are you going to do for a monitor? Is there anything wrong with it? How much? Also, I've been super busy, havn't had a chance to take that pedal apart yet to get that  pic for you. :-[
I'll try and get it to you tomorrow......

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #92 on: September 02, 2009, 11:21:12 am »
Hey Paul your game looks better and may actually WORK, but I'd like to bet your pedal panel doesn't look THIS GOOD!  :)
Let me know if you need me to explain any of the dimentions to you....


Awesome job! I love this game. Since I couldn't find one of this in my area, I'm creating a mame cab with wheels and everything that I'm hoping will resemble this pretty closely. I would LOVE to know the dimensions of your Pedal base. As I pretty much want to buy something exactly like that.

Also, I cannot quite figure this out. Do the pedals use potentiometers, or are they micro switch based?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #93 on: September 02, 2009, 04:20:15 pm »
It uses potentiometers.
I'll post some pics later tonight, along with some dimetions.......

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #94 on: September 02, 2009, 09:59:25 pm »
Kronic, I took some pics tonight, but they ended up so blurry, that I scrapped them, I'll retry again tomorrow.
I got the dimentions, it is 39" across at the back of the foot pedal CP, take a look at the pics in this thread, there are quite a few of that CP.


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2009, 02:27:52 am »
What are you going to do for a monitor? Is there anything wrong with it? How much? Also, I've been super busy, havn't had a chance to take that pedal apart yet to get that  pic for you. :-[
I'll try and get it to you tomorrow......

Nope it's a perfect monitor.  I don't know how much their worth and then shipping, so I have no idea.  Let me know.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2009, 07:11:11 am »
Stealthie, could you check with a couple different shippers? And get a quote on price to ship it to Ohio? All I REALLY need are the boards, It couldn't cost THAT much to just ship those? I don't really have to have the tube.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2009, 07:15:04 am »
Before you go parting a complete working monitor, ZORK2, have you asked in KLOV forums, or RGVAC?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2009, 11:34:07 am »
WOW!  Lots of work to do on the CPO... You guys will love it.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2009, 10:02:28 pm »
TARMAN! I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT!!  ;D

I am going to place an order with twisted quarter soon, the black laminate for the cab is on the list!! Been waiting for the side art and CPO to get finished before I place my order......

In the mean time,
Here are the pics I promised Kronic......
Stealthie, I am pointing directly to the piece I need!! It is attatched to the poteniometer that I also need! As you can see mine is paper cliped to the pedal!

SirPeale, your right, I'll keep an eye out for a local board, it just stinks, its been 6 months, I've been cruising the forums, and ebay, nothing has been quite right just yet!??!! If you see something out there, send me an IM and I'll check it out!!


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #100 on: September 03, 2009, 10:26:31 pm »
You may have to actually ask instead of waiting for someone to post one. 

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2009, 10:43:43 pm »
Got it.  I will send the pot and arm out to you this weekend. 

About the monitor, it would be best to try and find the part you need and to keep mine whole.  Yes check on KLOV, I'm sure you could find one. 

I'm excited for the CPO to be done.  There are a few people on KLOV that are looking for new art, so this should make a few people happy.
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #102 on: September 06, 2009, 10:22:24 pm »
In the mean time,
Here are the pics I promised Kronic......
Stealthie, I am pointing directly to the piece I need!! It is attatched to the poteniometer that I also need! As you can see mine is paper cliped to the pedal!

Thanks ZORK! I'll have to figure out how to deal with that issue ... hmmm ... the ones I had my eye on use micro-switches.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #103 on: September 30, 2009, 11:28:48 am »
Oh what's this I found... :)  Still ways to go but just look at those colors!


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #104 on: September 30, 2009, 05:45:41 pm »
Great restoration work!

I also bought an Off-Road. It was in excellent condition. Very lucky find.

Let me know if there is anything you need to help!

Do you still need info about that metal piece between the control panel and the monitor glass?

Keep up the great work!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #105 on: October 05, 2009, 09:33:05 pm »
Looks good! Wish mine was that far along!  :) Kind of got side tracked with a couple other projects!
Nope got that piece fabbed up a few weeks back, turned out great!
Tarman, Looking good buddy!!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2009, 12:01:02 pm »
CPO is DONE!


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #107 on: November 04, 2009, 09:26:26 am »
Hey Tarman, How can I get my hands on the artwork for printing? I really need some for my cab as well..

Thanks.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #108 on: November 04, 2009, 09:14:55 pm »
TARMAN! YOU ROCK!!  :notworthy:
Starting to get motivated on this project again!
I picked up a nice looking WG K7000 for a reasonable price today. Also got a power supply with iso trans ready to hook up! Stay tuned, hope to start making some progress again on this soon!!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #109 on: November 24, 2009, 10:25:17 pm »
Saw a prototype today!! MAN IT LOOKS GOOD!! Anyone out there interested in artwork for this game, PM me, I'm trying to get a number together to take to the printer so I know how many to have made. I'm hoping to get a bulk rate, to get the cost down for everyone. Right now its looking like about 70$ for both sides, and around 30$ for the CPO. Not sure how much the 3 colors for the shrouding around the wheels will be? I'm guessing maybe 10-15 per wheel? Still have some work to do on that so stay tuned

Thanks again TARMAN!! You rock!! I really can't thank you enough!
 

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #110 on: December 01, 2009, 12:09:57 am »
Hey all, first post on BYOAC!

Stealthie tipped me off to this thread on KLOV.  The resto looks fantastic so far!  Really really nice work.  It has inspired me to restore my junker Super Off Road.  

ZORK, I sent you a PM regarding the artwork.  I would really like to get a set of side art and a CPO.  Who did you get the corrugated rubber mat from on eBay?  It looks awesome.  :)

BTW I got my vinyl from Rich at This Old Game.  It is very thin, matt black and not textured.  Very similar to the original.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #111 on: December 02, 2009, 04:23:33 pm »
Got the first printing of the artwork done today! Looks really good. I am going to try and post some pics soon. I think I'm going to go a head and get a dozen or so printed up. Stay tuned......


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« Reply #112 on: December 05, 2009, 06:20:19 pm »
Got the first printing of the artwork done today! Looks really good. I am going to try and post some pics soon. I think I'm going to go a head and get a dozen or so printed up. Stay tuned......



Awesome!  Can't wait for these to be available.  :)
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #113 on: December 10, 2009, 06:08:09 pm »
Hey guys,
Quick update, I have been SUPER BUSY, out of town the past 2 weekends, and trying to play catch up with life and work during the week! I should have a few hours this weekend to get things posted......


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« Reply #114 on: January 02, 2010, 12:56:01 pm »
Hey guys,
Quick update, I have been SUPER BUSY, out of town the past 2 weekends, and trying to play catch up with life and work during the week! I should have a few hours this weekend to get things posted......



Any updates?  I can't wait to get a hold of this art  :)
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #115 on: January 10, 2010, 08:59:00 pm »
The art on one side of my off road is missing. I too would love to get a print!

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #116 on: March 13, 2010, 07:43:57 pm »
Any pics of the finished cab?

I'm thinking about grabbing an Off Road but the window of opportunity is small and time limited. It would be awesome if the artwork was available. Any updates?

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #117 on: May 06, 2010, 06:16:12 pm »
For anyone that is interested Rich over at thisoldgame.com is doing a run of the Super Off Road art.  Here is the link to my thread I made.  I got Rich the art files yesterday, so this project will be moving forward in the next couple of weeks. 

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=127465
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #118 on: October 28, 2010, 04:42:20 am »
For anyone who is still interested in the art here ya go.  The CPO should be available in the next couple of days.

http://www.thisoldgame.com/products/off-road-side-art
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #119 on: October 10, 2012, 03:10:37 pm »
tarman any chance i can get a copy of the side art file?  thanks


ARTWORK UPDATE!

Here are is the cleaned up sideart for our friend ZORK2.


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« Reply #120 on: July 29, 2013, 03:59:34 pm »
I apologize if I've missed it but I'm kindain a jam.. my little sister just closed her restaurant and we removed a ms. Pacman a judgeDred pinball..  and I'm working on my off road.. only prob is my bratty sister has lost the keys and I can't get it out the door without removing the wheels..can somebody point me in the right direction.. it's in a nut do great part of town and the sober the better... thanks

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #121 on: August 22, 2013, 03:02:18 pm »
Hi Tarman - Any chance of getting copies of the CPO art and Side Art.  I am going to try printing my own just for grins.

Thanks to all who have contributed to this - it inspired me to buy and fix-up my own Super Off Road.
Got the game working great, now just need to get it looking sharp.
Thanks again for all the information and inspiration!

CPO is DONE!


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #122 on: March 20, 2016, 01:20:04 pm »
I recently picked up a Super Off Road and have started working on it to get it to run properly.



One of the wheels has an encoder disk that has some broken parts.  Is there a source to buy replacement parts for these wheels?  If not, what is the best route, weld on new metal fingers?



Also, one wheel only turns one direction, is that a problem with the interface board, or something else?
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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #123 on: March 20, 2016, 03:05:53 pm »
One of the wheels has an encoder disk that has some broken parts.  Is there a source to buy replacement parts for these wheels?
Not sure, but I think this might be what you're looking for.   :dunno

http://arcadefixit.com/product.sc?productId=108

The site is run by KLOV's Mylstar. (Stephen Beall)

Also, one wheel only turns one direction, is that a problem with the interface board, or something else?
It could be mechanical misalignment (based on the broken teeth) but it is almost certainly not an electronic problem in the encoder board.

If it is an electronic problem, it would be on the game PCB since both data lines have to be working to register a turn of more than one step.

No quadrature waveform transitions = no turn.

Only one data line working = wobble back and forth one step.


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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #124 on: March 20, 2016, 04:48:17 pm »
Hey Bratwurst, 

How about starting a new restoration thread all to yourself? I hope to pick one of these up some day and I would love to watch along with this restore.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #125 on: March 21, 2016, 05:13:30 pm »
Probably not enough to do that isn't any different or even better than what is already in this thread. I have replaced the plexi on the front that was damaged, replaced the power cord, and scrubbed a lot of the dirt and grime off the machine.

Mine will entail:

  • I will clean up and try to get the wheels working as nicely as possible.
  • The metal for the middle player wheel is really bent up on mine, so I am trying to straighten it out as best I can.
  • One of the buttons is broken, so I will be replacing it.  Because the others look to have lost some of their color I might just replace them all.
  • The admin button is missing too - just a hanging leaf switch that doesn't work and no button.  So that needs to be replaced.
  • All the T-Molding is in need of replacement. I was thinking of using something other than black but I think that will show some of the spots that the cabinet has swollen wood.
  • Top of the CPO needs new artwork.  Probably not in the budget just yet.  If and when I do replace that, I might just replace that entire piece of wood too.
  • The pedal covers are missing - not sure where to source them.
  • Bottom right side of the cabinet the wood and laminate are in very bad shape.

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Re: Super Off Road restoration
« Reply #126 on: June 27, 2017, 09:07:20 am »
Hey Paul your game looks better and may actually WORK, but I'd like to bet your pedal panel doesn't look THIS GOOD!  :)
Let me know if you need me to explain any of the dimentions to you....

Hey ZORK2, could you please message me about your pedal panel?

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« Reply #127 on: January 17, 2018, 10:29:43 pm »
I know I am resurrecting an old thread, but as this thread is one of the few results in Google for this topic, and everything in it is still valid, I thought it would be ok and helpful for people searching for this information.

I just posted a 3D printable model of that steering encoder wheel to Thingiverse (link below). If anyone needs replacement encoder wheels, grab the file and print or have a friend w/ a 3D printer some off for you. I printed my first test in black ABS and was shocked that it worked right away without having to tweak anything.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2760779